Showing posts with label Redhill Farm School Surrey. Show all posts
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Sunday, October 13, 2013

Boy emigrants from Redhill Farm School: Edgell

The Edgell Story: guest post by Peter Bathe

There are occasions when following the trail of an ancestor that another person is encountered who, although not related, was a colleague/friend/acquaintance of that ancestor. It can be both rewarding and revealing to follow this person’s life, not least because sometimes fresh discoveries can be made for the main line of research.

One such case happened while I followed the life of my great grandfather and I encountered John Joseph William Edgell.

Brislington nr Bristol
John Edgell was born in 1850 in a small village on the outskirts of Bristol called Brislington. He was the oldest of six boys born to Joseph Edgell, a labourer, and his wife Susan (nee Tucker).

By the time John was six years old, the family had moved the few miles to Bath. It was here that John started working as an errand boy for an auctioneer, but at the age of 11 he was convicted of larceny of his master’s property.
House of Correction, Coldbath Square




He was sentenced to spend 14 days imprisoned at the Bath House of Correction followed by detention in a reformatory for four years.











Thus it was that on 26 December 1861 John arrived at the Philanthropic Society’s reformatory, the Redhill Farm School in Surrey, where he would have met my great grandfather, George Bathe, for the first time (George had started his own sentence there a couple of months earlier).


Redhill Farm School, Surrey


It was the Farm School’s policy to encourage suitable boys to emigrate to the colonies at the end of their sentences – particularly to Canada, but also to Natal and Cape Colony. John and my grandfather were both deemed good material as colonists and so on 27 October 1865, they sailed together on the brig Lord Clarendon and arrived in Durban on 2 February the following year.


Passenger list of the Lord Clarendon, Natal Mercury 6 February 1866.
3rd line down shows 2 Redhill emigrants Bathe and Edgell - misspelt Bashe and Edgar.

When the boys arrived they were taken into the care of the Society’s agent in Durban, Frederick James Dickinson. He reported back to the School on 8 February: 'Bathe & Edgell are stopping a few days with me on the Berea until I send them to their places – one to a coffee planter 30 miles away, on the coast, the other to a sheep farmer 140 miles away near Grey Town.'

It was John who was sent to the coffee planter – W A Remnant at Shortlands, Verulam. John was to be an overseer of the African and Indian workers on the estate. He worked a 12-hour day and also looked after horses and poultry – all for £1 a month initially.

Bishop Colenso:
 cartoon by Pellegrini
Over the next few years, John often wrote to the School’s chaplain, telling him about his life on the farm and odd snippets of news about other former pupils who were in Natal, one or two of whom appear to have slipped back into criminal ways. He also spoke of events in the colony, such as the gold diggings and the controversy about Bishop Colenso, whom he described as 'a very nice man'.

However, one letter at the end of November 1866 was to Frederick Dickinson in Durban asking how to send some money back to his mother: 'I want to send £5 or 6 to my mother. Father was killed on Sept 11 by a Dray passing over his head. He jumped from the cart he was driving & falling was killed instantly. Mother is very ill & very poor. Tell me how I must send it home. Mr Remnant’s gone up country so cannot send the money until next mail. Am thankful to feel that I have one kind friend in Natal.'

A few months later he was again writing to Mr Dickinson: 'My mother wants to send out one of my younger brothers. Can you get him a place? Another has gone to friends in America.'

In fact, the following year, John’s mother and the other brothers all went to live in the USA, but sadly one of the brothers 'was kicked to death by a young colt near New York' a year later.

Coffee plantation
John’s early years with the Remnants seem to have been happy and prosperous. He was made manager of the estate which in 1868 'had above 30,000 coffee trees & shall have 8 tons of coffee this year & 40 tons next. We are going to plant tobacco.' By 1870, he had an average of 70 men and women to supervise.

The following year he wrote, 'We fielded 12 tons of it last year. I have 100 acres to attend to. I shall get about £50 a year & provide for myself & live in Master’s house.” Then later: “We have picked at the rate of 1 ton an acre of clean coffee for 14 acres. From the remainder, 24 tons clean or above 300 tons in the press, & have to look after nearly 100 hands. For June I paid £52 in wages, some men having 8/-, 9/-, 14/- a mo. I have a furnished house of my own & a horse to ride.'

He was doing so well he was sending donations to the Chapel fund for the Redhill School and offered a half sovereign for the best boy in his old school house, Queen’s.

But in 1872 there seems to have been a downturn in his fortunes and he wrote: 'I am no richer than when I came only get £6 a mo & feed & clothe myself & clothes are very dear.' Then 'I am 22 today I have no increase in my pay and can save nothing, things are dearer than ever. I shall have to look out for another place.'

The following year, 'No increase of pay, tho I have been here 8 years. Only brickmakers & carpenters flourish here,' and finally, 'Crops are very poor, Coffee crop as bad as last year. Nearly all are turning to sugar growing. My wages are very low. My brother in America, 4 years younger, gets far higher wages than mine at ordinary work.'

Unfortunately, I haven't copies of any of his later letters but things may have improved sufficiently for him to marry in 1881 in Verulam. His wife was Lucy Caroline Dawtrey who originally came from Halifax in Yorkshire.



Marriage record: John Joseph William Edgell and Lucy Caroline Dawtrey
at Verulam, Natal,1881 *

John obviously gained a good working knowledge of the Indian languages while working at the Remnants’ farm, because in 1889 he applied for the post of Hindustani and Tamil interpreter to The Supreme Court of Natal. He died in 1907.

And how did John Edgell help in my own family history research? In a few of his letters he mentions my great grandfather and added to my knowledge of him. For example:

2 August 1870: 'I saw Bathe a month since. He has gone with the Regt to the Mauritius. He is a smart looking fellow, the tallest but one in his company. He is lance corporal & earned 30/- for shooting.'
21 April 1871: 'I have heard from Bathe at the Cape.'

All I knew was that after he had left the sheep farmer in Grey Town, he joined the army, went to Mauritius with his regiment sometime in 1870 and then returned to the UK at the beginning of 1872. Now I know more precisely when he went to Mauritius and the fact that for a time his regiment was at the CapeBut it is the personal details of his height, rank and earnings which were particularly fascinating.

George never returned to South Africa but he and John did keep in contact for some while afterwards.



Note: Thanks to Peter Bathe for the series of interesting and informative articles on these Redhill emigrants. For further posts on this topic enter Redhill in the blog search facility at top left of page.


"South Africa, Natal Province, Civil Marriages, 1845-1955," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11603-13676-65?cc=2063749&wc=M9WM-PP1:n2003075036 : accessed 13 Oct 2013), 004236412 > image 1 of 762.



Friday, November 30, 2012

Regiments garrisoned at Fort Napier Natal 1843-1914


In August 1843 two companies of the 45th Regiment, 1st Nottingham (Sherwood Foresters), with fifteen engineers and several artillery men marched the 52 miles from Durban to Pietermaritzburg in four days. On arrival they occupied a hill overlooking the town and this site was chosen for the construction of a fort to be named Fort Napier in honour of Sir George Napier, Military Governor and Governor of the Cape.

The officer in charge of the garrison was Major Thomas Charlton Smith who had, with his troops, been besieged at Durban in 1842. In 1843 a military cemetery was laid out: some graves date from 1846. Imperial troops occupied Fort Napier from 1843 to 1914, among them some famous regiments.

1843-59 45th Reg. (1st Sherwood Foresters)
1859-61 85th Reg. (2nd King’s Shropshire Light Infantry)
1861-62 59th Reg. (2nd East Lancashire)
1863-64 2/5th Reg. (2nd Northumberland Fusiliers)
1864-65 2/11th Reg. (2nd Devonshire)
1865-67 99th Reg. (2nd Wiltshire)
1870-71 32nd Reg. (1st Duke of Cornwall’s Light Infantry)
1871-75 75th Reg. (1st Gordon Highlanders)
1875-77 1/13th Reg. (1st Somerset Light Infantry)
1877-78 80th Reg. (2nd Staffordshire)
1877-78 2/3rd Reg. (2nd Buffs)
1878 1/24th Reg. (1st South Wales Borderers)
1878 2/24th Reg. (2nd South Wales Borderers)
1879-90 3/60th Reg. (King’s Royal Rifle Corps)
1880-84 58th Reg. (2nd Northamptonshire)
1881-86 Inniskilling Dragoons
1881-86 41st Reg. (1st Welsh)
1883-85 91st Reg. (1st Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders)
1884-87 82nd Reg. (2nd South Lancashire)
1886-88 27th Reg. (Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers)
1884-93 4th Mountain Battery
1884-93 1st Reg. (1st Royal Scots)
1887-90 64th Reg. (1st North Staffordshire)
1890-92 11th Hussars
1891-94 84th Reg. (2nd York and Lancaster)
1892-95 3rd Dragoon Guards
1893-98 10th Mountain Battery
1894-98 76th Reg. (2nd West Riding)
1895-98 7th Hussars
1896-97 9th Lancers
1897-99 1/3rd Reg. (2nd Royal Dublin Fusiliers)
1898-99 5th Royal Irish Lancers
1899-1902  Anglo Boer War
1902-03 2/4th Reg. (2nd King’s Own Royal Lancaster)
1902-03 2/14th Reg. (2nd West Yorkshire)
1904-08 1st Royal Garrison Regiment
1906 2/79th Reg. (2nd Cameron Highlanders)
1907-07 6th Reg. (3rd Royal Warwickshire)
1907-09 9th Reg. (2nd Norfolk)
1908-09 7th Reg. (3rd Royal Fusiliers)
1909-13 62nd Reg. (1st Wiltshire)
1913-14 38th Reg. (1st South Staffordshire)

Additional information provided by Peter Bathe:


Mole states::
At Fort Napier, 1865-67 99th Regiment                  
                         1870-71 32nd Regiment (1st Duke of Cornwall’s LI)

If it is evidence you need to fill the gap at Fort Napier, I offer this:
21 September 1868: George William Bathe (GWB) enlisted as private No 1711 in 2nd Battalion, 20th Regiment (East Devonshire) at Pietermaritzburg, Natal.

3 March 1869: letter from GWB 2nd/20th Regt, Fort Napier

21 Nov 1869: letter from GWB  2nd/20th Regt, Fort Napier

2 Aug 1870: letter from Edgell in Natal “I saw Bathe a month since. He has gone with the Regt to the Mauritius.”

21 April 1871: letter from Edgell in Natal “I have heard from Bathe at the Cape.”

12 May 1871: letter from GWB, King William’s Town, Cape Colony

22 February 1872: visited the School at Redhill, Surrey, England: 1711 2nd Batt 20th Regiment

22 April 1872: letter from GWB, 2nd/20th Regt, Buttevant, Co Cork, Ireland.

For more on George William Bathe in the context of Redhill Farm School Surrey see

http://molegenealogy.blogspot.com/2012/08/emigrants-to-natal-from-redhill-farm.html
http://molegenealogy.blogspot.com/2012/08/names-of-emigrants-to-natal-from.html
and other links - enter redhill in the search facility on this blog to access earlier posts




Friday, August 24, 2012

Passengers to Natal: 1861


On 7 September 1861 the 329 t barque William Ackers arrived at Port Natal. According to the immigration register she had sailed from London on 1 June. Length of voyage from England to Natal varied considerably during the 1860s, partly because sailing vessels didn’t take anything resembling a straight course but tacked all over the ocean in pursuit of favourable winds. The clipper ships such as Priscilla and Verulam of the White Cross Line, built for speed, could do the trip in under two months. Priscilla set a record from Natal to England in November 1863 - 52 days – but that was exceptional.

William Ackers carried 64 emigrants, including Henry Dongworth, one of the Redhill reformatory boys mentioned in the recent series of posts on this blog.

Full list of passengers:

Abbott, Christopher
Beard, James R
Beard, Mary Ann
Beard, Mary Ann (dau)
Beard, James E
Crosse, Robert F
Crosse, Emeline
Crosse, Cecilia
Crosse, Frederick
Crosse, Bertie
Crosse, Claude
Dunn, Georgina
Jones, John T
Jones, Amy
Nimmo, Jane
Palmer, Thomas
Shearbridge/Shewbridge, Charles
Turpin, Emma
Andrews, John
Algers, George
Algers, Susannah
Bailey, Alfred
Candill, Joseph
Candill, Isabella
Candill, John
Candill, James
Chadwick, William
Clarke, William
Dongworth/Dougworth, Henry
Edwards, Edward
Ellenor, David
Frammer (?), William
Hick, Joseph
Harris, Henry
Hall, Thomas
Hoffman, Christian
Jordan, Margaret
Lyth, Thomas
Leech, William
Leech, Sarah
Massey, Matthew
Pastell, John
Teasdale, Mary
Teasdale, William
Teasdale, Helen
Teasdale, Robert
Thaxted(?), George
Waters, Hannah
Wood, Robert
Wheeler, Robert
Woodhouse, William
Oppenheimer, Alfred
Woodhouse, Jane
Woodhouse, Thomas
Woodhouse, William
Woodhouse, George
Woodhouse, Frederick
Woodhouse, James

Added at the foot of the list:
Charles Waters
Child Townsend

There is a slight disparity between the number of passengers supposed to have been on board and the actual number listed. This is not unusual in passenger registers.

The ship departed Natal for Mauritius on 3 November, 1861.

The 1861 voyage was a once-off visit to Natal by the William Ackers. More about this vessel at http://www.mightyseas.co.uk/marhist/maryport/william_ackers.htm



Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Redhill Reformatory Emigrants to Natal/South Africa - Part 2 N - W


Continuing the list of Redhill emigrants; see yesterday's post on this blog for the first portion of the list.

Facts in this order - Birth/Admitted to School/emigration date (if known):

37. Nalder Francis 20.10.1858/30.1.1874
38. Oliver Isaac 7.11.1840/20.6.1852
39. Parratt John  1866/17.12.1879/to S Africa 27.8.1884 Tartar
40. Paul John 1868/10.9.1881/to S Africa 24.7.1884 Garth Castle
41. Pilcher William Edward 1867/11.7.1879/to S Africa 24.7.1884 Garth Castle
42. Porter Edward 1863 (Battle, Sussex)/21.7.1879/to Natal 28.6.1884 Mexican
43. Porter Horace 1868 (Battle, Sussex)/21 7 1879/to Natal 28.6.1884 Mexican
44. Pulford William 25.2.1840/5.4.1854
45. Pritty John 1845/25.8.1860
46. Quin George 1847/13.5.1861
47. Rayner Samuel 1866/13.9.1881/to S Africa 27.8.1884 Tartar
48. Reed James 15.4.1840/13.4.1854
49. Reeves William Henry 11.1.1844/13.10.1858
50. Rowe John 30.3.1840/7.3.1854
51. Shackleford Edward 1845/14.12.1858
52. Shaw John (Wm Thos) 13.2.1874 (Kilburn, Middx)/26.1.1889
53. Shorter George Henry 17.9.1865 (Hadlow, Kent)/8.7.1880/to S Africa 27.5.1884 Hawarden Castle
54. Sinmer (real name Limmer) Charles Arthur 1862/29.6.1875
55. Smith Charles W 1840/23.2.1852
56. Smith (real name Saundaycock) George 26.1.1859/27.4.1874
57. Smith John George 1845/2.2.1860
58. Stammers Christopher James 10.8.1865 (Sible Hedingham, Essex)/7.3.1881/to Natal 11.4.1884 Drummond Castle
59. Swan Charles 1868 (Watford, Herts)/9.8.1879/to S Africa 24.7.1884 Garth Castle
60. Swift William 25.12.1865 (Nottingham)/3.7.1879/to Natal 28.6.1884 Mexican
61. Thomas William Edward 1.11.1866 (St Leonards, Sussex)/14.8.1880/to Natal 24.7.1884 Garth Castle
62. Titley Joseph 25.12.1842/8.9.1857/to Natal Aries
63. Ware William 1866 (Bridgwater, Somerset)/23.5.1879/to S Africa 27.5.1884 Hawarden Castle
64. Waugh James 16.12.1841/18.12.1852
65. Webb Edward 1842/13.2.1854
66. Weldon alias Williams Peter 1841/3.1.1854
67. Williams (real name Jenkinson) Robert (real name Peter) 1843/15.6.1857/to Natal Aries
68. Williams (right name Warren) Henry (right name John) 2.4.1844/16.1.1860/to Natal Dudbrook
69. Willis alias Lloyd John alias George 1841/20.6.1854
70. Wood George Thomas 13.6.1864 (Chatham, Kent)/8.11.1879/to S Africa 27.8.1884 Tartar


Researcher Peter Bathe would like to hear from any descendants of the Redhill emigrants, or from anyone with an interest in the topic, and can be contacted at p[dot]bathe[at]hotmail[dot]com

Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Redhill Reformatory emigrants Natal/South Africa – Part 1 A-M

Rather than ship troublesome boys straight to the colonies, the British Government worked with various charities, including the Philanthropic Society, to train boys, mostly in farming work but also as blacksmiths and carpenters, etc, and then selected the most suitable for immigration to Canada, Australia and South Africa.

The Philanthropic Society’s Farm School was at Redhill in Surrey. The boys would spend between three and five years at the school (depending on the term of their original sentence) before they sailed to the colonies.

In the second half of the 19th century, the Society sent some 70 boys to South Africa, most going to Natal.

By combining the records of the Farm School, data from the British census, and the records published so far as part of the eGGSA Passenger Project, it has been possible to collate some information about these immigrants, which is presented here in two parts – boys with surnames beginning A to M and those from L to Z.

The boys are listed alphabetically by surname, followed by two key dates – a date of birth and the date the child was admitted to the Farm School. Where known, a place of birth has been added.

Finally, where there is a known date of arrival in South Africa, this has been noted, together with the ship the boy sailed on.


Birth/Admitted to School/emigration date (if known):

1. Ayton William 1842/1.8.1853
2. Baigent Alfred Thomas born 2.6.1872 (London)/admitted to school 19.3.1888
3. Bloomfield (real name Bailey) George (real name Alfred) 15.9.1842 27.10.1858
4. Bathe George William 12.7.1847 (Plumstead, Kent)/16.11.1861/to Natal 10.1865
5. Berridge Robert James 28.6.1864 (Rotherhithe, Surrey)/25.12.1879/to Natal 10.4.1883 Kinfauns Castle
6. Brian alias Hill Thomas 1847/27.10.1860
7. Broadley John 1841/17.3.1854
8. Carr Samuel 1852/16.4.1866
9. Chidgey Joseph 4.11.1846/18.1.1861
10. Cockbill James 1.9.1862 (Westminster)/2.7.1878/to S Africa 23 2 1882 Anglian
11. Cosford George 10.3.1867 (Derby)/5.5.1879/to Natal 11.4.1884 Drummond Castle
12. Dixon John Henry 5.7.1866/29.6.1881/to Natal 28.6.1884 Mexican
13. Dongworth Henry 4.5.1846/29.5.1857/to Natal 1861 William Ackers
14. Dudderidge Charles 9.1.1849/28.3.1861
15. Eary George 1840/20.6.1854
16. Edgell John 18.10.1849/26.12.1861/to Natal 10.1865
17. Freeman (real name Smith) William James 24.11.1876/20.5.1892
18. Friend (real name Hall) John 26.2.1873/22.6.1887
19. Gaiter Hodgson Smith 27.1.1866 (Wellington, Shropshire)/21.7.1879/to S Africa 27 5 1884 Hawarden Castle
20. Hale William 1865 (Radstock, Somerset)/2.2.1878/ to S Africa 23 2 1882 Anglian
21. Harmsworth George James 27.2.1866 n(Clapton, Middx)/15.3.1879 to S Africa 27 5 1884 Hawarden Castle
22. Harris William (Benjn Geo Chas) 16.4.1863 (Millwall, Essex)/21.5.1879/to Natal 10.4.1883 Kinfauns Castle
23. Hoffmann Arthur 7.1.1866 /27.8.1881/to S Africa 27 8 1884 Tartar
24. Horn (real name Murphy) William 1866 (Dover, Kent)/6.5.1880/to Natal 10.4.1883 Kinfauns Castle
25. Jones George Henry 1846/22.11.1860
26. Keynton Laurence 1846/13.10.1860
27. King Thomas John 1865 (Rochester, Kent)/12.4.1879/to Natal 11.4.1884 Drummond Castle
28. Kirk John 1846/27.7.1858
29. Lamas James 1850/31.10.1866
30. Leatham Henry George Milton 1862/20.9.1875
31. Long Maurice 28.10.1858/9.12.1872
32. Lovett John 22.3.1842/6.7.1853
33. Marsh William 2.1.1864 (London)/20.4.1880/to Natal 11.4.1884 Drummond Castle
34. McCarthy Michael 30.9.1866 (Kensal New Town, Middx)/30.3.1881/to Natal 11.4.1884 Drummond Castle
35. Moore Henry 2.7.1859/11.3.1873
36. Murphy James 1848/8.2.1860

To be continued.

Guest post from researcher Peter Bathe.






Monday, August 20, 2012

Names of Redhill emigrants to Port Elizabeth


Peter Bathe’s list of emigrants to Port Elizabeth from the Redhill Farm School, Surrey:

Note: the first date by each name is date of birth and the second, date of admission to the school.

1. Clarke William 25.5.1834 17.3.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth
2. Donovan Cornelius 6.5.1835 11.10.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth per 'Pestongue Bomanzie'
3. Dunkley Henry 1832 23.12.1846 Birth given as July, to Port Elizabeth then returned
4. Fossett George 1833 27.10.1847 To Port Elizabeth, age given as 14
5. Gould James 1832 25.11.1847 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth, age given as 15
6. Hallworth William 28.5.1838 21.5.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth
7. Halpin Joseph 1836 4.11.1847 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth, age given as 11
8. Hulme James 1.5.1833 12.8.1848 To Port Elizabeth, Cape Colony
9. Hurley Dennis 1835 4.8.1848 To Port Elizabeth, Cape Colony,
10. James George 1833 29.1.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth,
11. Johns Isaac 1833 27.10.1847 To Port Elizabeth,
12. Jones James 1834 27.10.1847 To Port Elizabeth,
13. Kennerley Samuel 1832 21.10.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth, Cape of Good Hope,
14. Ladsom William Broad 10.2.1835 31.8.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth
15. Littleford Robt I (sic) 27.1.1834 20.1.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth
16. Mahoney Thomas 20.1.1847 To Port Elizabeth, Cape Colony,
17. Morey John 1834 15.5.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth,
18. Robson Matthew Mitchell 27.6.1834 26.8.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth, Cape Colony
19. Rogers Wm (sic) Albert 1839 13.11.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth
20. Ryan Edward 1833 11.12.1847 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth,
21. Sayle William 1831 25.8.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth, Cape Colony,
22. Spurr Henry 1833 15.1.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth
23. Stanley William 22.3.1834 30.10.1848 An orphan, emigrated to Port Elizabeth, Cape Colony
24. Taylor Thomas 1832 17.1.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth,
25. Tootall William 25.11.1847 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth, age given as 15
26. Turnock Joseph 1832 29.7.1848 To Port Elizabeth,
27. Walduck alias Cox Robert 1831 18.11.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth, Cape of Good Hope
28  Webb John 1834 10.2.1847 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth, Cape of Good Hope,
29. Whitebrook John 27.6.1834 13.6.1848 Emigrated to Port Elizabeth

Sunday, August 19, 2012

More emigrants from Redhill Farm School, Surrey

After further research, Peter Bathe can now offer additional information on Redhill Farm School emigrants. He reports:


There were 29 ex Redhill boys who emigrated to Port Elizabeth, all of whom came to the school in 1847 or 1848, and so probably emigrated between 1850 and 1853. After then, the boys were noted as having emigrated to Natal and then, in the 1880s, more generally as 'to South Africa'.

The popularity of southern Africa as a destination for the boys waxed and waned. Of the boys who were admitted to the school between February 1852 and June 1856, 13 went to Natal (probably arriving between 1855 and 1861).

No boy from the next three years’ intakes was sent to Natal, but seven of those admitted between May 1857 and December 1858 did (including Henry Dongworth, admitted May 1857, arrived Natal 1861).
Again there was a gap when none of the boys admitted in 1859 went but then 12 from January 1860 to December 1861 admissions sailed for Natal (including George Bathe, admitted November 1861, emigrated October 1865)

Two boys from the 1866 intake and six of those admitted to the school between December 1872 and September 1875 went to Natal or were noted as having gone to South Africa. (This last group would have arrived between 1875 and 1880)

The biggest migration occurred in the period 1882 to 1884. A total of 26 boys who had entered the school between February 1877 and September 1881 went to Natal in seven groups – and these are all listed in the database currently in process of development by eGGSA i.e. the Passenger List Project.
See previous post http://molegenealogy.blogspot.com/search?q=eggsa+passenger+list+project.

After this period, emigration to South Africa tailed off, with only four more boys going, one each from the intakes of 1887, 88, 89 and 92.

Names of Redhill boys who emigrated to Port Elizabeth will follow in a future post.



Redhill, Surrey: the Philanthropic Society's Farm School
for the reformation of juvenile offenders



Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Names of emigrants to Natal from Redhill Farm School, Surrey



Part Two of Guest Post by Peter Bathe

The following is a list of those who emigrated to Natal from Redhill Farm School, Surrey:

1. Ayton William
2. Bloomfield (real name Bailey)
George (real name Alfred)
3. Bathe George William
4. Berridge Robert James
5. Brian alias Hill Thomas
6. Broadley John
7. Carr Samuel
8. Chidgey Joseph
9. Cosford George
10. Dixon John Henry
11. Dongworth Henry
12. Dudderidge Charles
13. Eary George
14. Edgell John
15. Freeman (real name Smith)
William James
16. Friend (real name Hall) John
17. Harris William (Benjn Geo Chas)
18. Hirn (real name Murphy)
William
19. Jones George Henry
20. Keynton Laurence
21. King Thomas (John)
22. Kirk John
23. Lamas James
24. Leatham Henry George Milton
25. Lovett John
26. Marsh William
27. McCarthy Michael
28. Murphy James
29. Oliver Isaac
30. Porter Edward
31. Pulford William
32. Putty/Pritty John
33. Quin George
34. Reed James
35. Reeves William Henry
36. Rowe John
37. Shackleford Edward
38. Sinmer [sic] (real name Limmer)
Charles Arthur
39. Smith Charles W
40. Smith John George
41. Stammers Christopher James
42. Swift William
43. Thomas William (Edwd)
44. Titley Joseph
45. Waugh James
46. Webb Edward
47. Weldon alias Williams Peter
48. Williams (real name Jenkinson)
Robert (real name Peter)
49. Williams (real name Warren)
Henry (real name John)
50. Willis alias Lloyd John
alias George

Author's note:

I have extracted all those noted as having gone to Natal from a pdf file created by Surrey History Centre.
http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/172776/RoyalPhilanthropicSchoolRedhill.pdf lists several hundred boys for whom records exist at the SHC.

The data on the pdf file is simply name, date of birth, date of admission to the school and where they went at the end of their sentences. However, it is possible to purchase facsimiles of the admission register entries for each boy from SHC:


Redhill Farm School Log 1861: portion of page concerning
George William Bathe, giving physical description, age and
educational status as well as his offence: 'obtaining 21/-
by false pretences'. 
The pages of the register are about A3 in size, and there are two per boy. The top half of these two pages include details such as date of birth, physical attributes, parents, crime and court, former education etc while the lower half is a log of the boy’s life at the school – visits, leave, misdemeanours and what happened at the end of the sentence, plus as much of a post-release follow-up as the school was able to manage, based on letters from former inmates and their friends.
It would be possible using Ancestry.com to get more details of these boys prior to their period at the school (including, possibly, their offence) and I would be happy to look into that should anyone wish to know more about a particular individual.
The new eGGSA passenger list project mentioned elsewhere in this blog may provide details of their arrival in Natal.





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Monday, August 13, 2012

Emigrants to Natal from the Redhill Farm School, Surrey


Guest post from Peter Bathe

The Philanthropic Society was formed in 1788 to aid the reformation of boys who had been engaged in criminal activities. In 1792 it transferred to Southwark and in 1849 to a farm school of 133 acres, later expanded to 350 acres, at Redhill in Surrey. Boys accepted at the school early on were either voluntary cases at expiration of prison sentences, voluntary cases part paid for by parents who could not manage them at home, or very young boys sentenced to transportation.

The Reformatory School Act of 1854 made changes that meant that in place of these three categories the school began receiving boys directly from the courts. The numbers of boys at the school rose considerably, and at the end of their time at the school many Victorian era boys were sent to parts of the British Empire.
The basic training for the boys was working on the land, although tailoring, carpentering, shoemaking, and blacksmithing were also taught.

Reform, or Reformatory, schools became Approved Schools under the 1933 Children’s Act. Later changes in legislation took control of the school – although not ownership of the property – away from the Society and eventually the school closed in 1988.

In 1861, it was reported: “Since the year 1849, 1,484 boys have been received, of whom more than 600 have emigrated. A large majority of those who have left its walls are now filling situations with credit to themselves and the good report of their employers. There are now 260 inmates, who are lodged in six separate houses, or ‘homes’.”

Of those who emigrated, most went to Canada, but several sailed to Natal.

For example, of the 95 boys admitted to the Farm School in 1861, five emigrated to Natal at the end of their sentences, but 21 went to Canada (plus three to Australia and one to New Zealand).

The records of the Farm School show that some 27 former inmates who had been sent there between 1852 and 1865 emigrated to Natal, and a further 18 from those sent there between 1866 and about 1890.

The year 1865 is only significant in that my great grandfather, George William Bathe, who was sent to the school from Maidstone Quarter Session in November 1861, sailed to Natal after completing his sentence and arrived there on 25 October 1865. He did not prosper as a colonist and in 1869 enlisted in the British army with a regiment then stationed at Pietermaritzburg, and returned to England with that regiment.




Harvest home at the Philanthropic Society's Farm School, Redhill, Surrey