tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post3250386906811260435..comments2024-03-14T10:57:10.845+02:00Comments on Mole's Genealogy Blog: Indian Immigration Registers/Ships Lists NatalMolehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09761273493116575841noreply@blogger.comBlogger76125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-78214764119784326592021-10-23T06:51:29.398+02:002021-10-23T06:51:29.398+02:00Kim: If you have the marriage certificate of your ...Kim: If you have the marriage certificate of your grandfather and grandmother, that will help.Devanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13412391034405390224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-61032016778213096492021-10-06T01:36:41.320+02:002021-10-06T01:36:41.320+02:00Hi there. I have located my great father via the s...Hi there. I have located my great father via the ship list. However I am strugglying to provide the link between my great grand father and grand father. (My grand father is deceased and unfortunately we dont have his unabridged certificate)<br /><br />Is there a way to prove the link between the two?<br /><br />ThanksKimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05958746121841487912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-60454622630036163552021-08-15T09:39:32.997+02:002021-08-15T09:39:32.997+02:00Thank you for such an exciting blog and the inform...Thank you for such an exciting blog and the information you provide.<br />I have managed to find my grandparents details on the ukzn ships list.<br />They arrived hn Durban in 1904 may on the ship Umzinto from Bikramanj Bihar.<br /><br />What surprised me that on the ships register its says " residents of Guadeloupe ".<br />Any input regarding how this is possible.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05143455714836896499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-88488066585695761322021-03-17T15:30:26.413+02:002021-03-17T15:30:26.413+02:00Hello is this post still active?Hello is this post still active?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13208588616002524464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-57581054249209075092020-10-25T07:47:57.038+02:002020-10-25T07:47:57.038+02:00I regret that the meaning of your comment is not c...I regret that the meaning of your comment is not clear to me. Sorry. Molehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761273493116575841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-42471531658969267452020-10-24T23:23:04.781+02:002020-10-24T23:23:04.781+02:00Good day I would like to know if there was any one...Good day I would like to know if there was any one who requested their home address in India Ian looking for family in fayzbad bikapur and Lucknow Ashokahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13272572990016749300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-34351268199508080332020-10-11T14:24:31.601+02:002020-10-11T14:24:31.601+02:00Hi Mole. I have 2 numbers found on great grandpare...Hi Mole. I have 2 numbers found on great grandparents ID cards. I have no idea where to start. Please would you point me in the right direction. Angela Pillay(E35655) M Govindsamy (E/847/53)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06324715301373052168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-52386845811362231242020-01-24T07:25:32.080+02:002020-01-24T07:25:32.080+02:00I am retired now and do not undertake individual r...I am retired now and do not undertake individual research through archives, though in the past did all my Indian Immigration work myself at various archives. Now I have moved on to other topics. However, you can use the Index which is available on CD from eGGSA at a few Rand, and there are other sources at Pietermaritzburg and Durban Archives, which you can visit in person. All the best, MoleMolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761273493116575841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-44291288373197191062020-01-24T07:18:26.198+02:002020-01-24T07:18:26.198+02:00First you need to be certain whether your g grandp...First you need to be certain whether your g grandparents were indentured immigrants or so-called passenger Indians. If they were the latter they would have travelled privately, not as large groups, and there is basically no register of their arrivals in Natal. For indentured immigrants you need at least a small number of details about the g grandparents to be able to make progress. There is an Molehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761273493116575841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-37344595729359651412020-01-20T22:22:52.301+02:002020-01-20T22:22:52.301+02:00Good evening Mole.is there people who help to get ...Good evening Mole.is there people who help to get information for you. Who goes through the archives for you and because they know how to acess the archives?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14995883615671326955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-34341181306416573642020-01-20T22:19:43.047+02:002020-01-20T22:19:43.047+02:00Good evening Mole.my grandfather died in 1945 on h...Good evening Mole.my grandfather died in 1945 on his abridged death certificate on the bottom right he has D/R 1836/45.my grandmother on her abridged birth certificate she hasI.I.5392/37.she also has the green id card which starts with 800 and ends with A.her parents and sister and brother was born in india.how can i get information about my great grandparents? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14995883615671326955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-2396170184326863442020-01-10T12:01:27.019+02:002020-01-10T12:01:27.019+02:00May I suggest you read through the other posts on ...May I suggest you read through the other posts on the topic of Indian Immigrants which appear on my blog. The search facility is at top left of the blog page.<br />CB does usually mean Colonial Born. You could try a search on the number on NAAIRS (SA National Archives Index) and see if anything comes up. I'm not certain how helpful such a number would be. <br />Best Wishes MoleMolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761273493116575841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-24734187138159156052020-01-10T10:08:26.668+02:002020-01-10T10:08:26.668+02:00Hi Mole
Thank you for the knowledge and insight ...Hi Mole <br /><br />Thank you for the knowledge and insight provided through your blog and your responses to questions!<br /><br />I have a copy of my grandmother's birth certificate. Her mother's (my great grandmother's) details are listed as follows:<br />Parents' Official numbers: 12054/7979/7930<br />Indentured or Free: C.B.<br /><br />I think that CB means colonial born but IMedhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03235530642986163474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-31746160280536113512019-12-12T07:52:32.029+02:002019-12-12T07:52:32.029+02:00240868.1B does not seem a recognisable format to m...240868.1B does not seem a recognisable format to me. But I am not expert on later numbers given to descendants of the original Indian migrant. The only number associated with the original migrant is the one given to them on arrival at Port Natal and this remains with them for the rest of their time here. Later, their descendants may be given a Colonial Number indicating they were born in Natal. Molehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761273493116575841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-70550797091307181352019-12-09T13:31:49.904+02:002019-12-09T13:31:49.904+02:00Hi Mole,
Many thanks for your mail, this is very ...Hi Mole,<br /><br />Many thanks for your mail, this is very helpful. My last question is do you perhaps recognize the following number format as I am told this is his ID number. 240868.1BNierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11871584780213415122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-5656548717658646492019-11-29T16:28:52.719+02:002019-11-29T16:28:52.719+02:00Hello Nien, your enquiry covers a broad area and I...Hello Nien, your enquiry covers a broad area and I can't really attempt to answer it in detail here. May I suggest that you read through all the comments posted on this blog as well as going back to the archived posts by using the search facility (top left hand corner of the page) entering 'Indian Migrants', 'Indian immigration' etc. This would give you a great deal of basic Molehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761273493116575841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-29042944548593753892019-11-29T11:51:46.502+02:002019-11-29T11:51:46.502+02:00Hi,
I am in possession of my great grand dads mil...Hi,<br /><br />I am in possession of my great grand dads military documents. I am trying to trace his arrival in S.A. and possibly trace his parents etc back to India. Furthermore he also married here in S.A. so i would like to trace my great grand moms relatives as well.Nierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11871584780213415122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-66373161980628422802019-10-05T11:10:05.923+02:002019-10-05T11:10:05.923+02:00Regret that I can't answer your questions sati...Regret that I can't answer your questions satisfactorily. For one thing I am not sure what you are referring to as an '800 number' or how this could be used to locate an ID number. ID numbers only came into being in 1950 so it is possible for an ancestor not to have such a number depending on his date.<br />You may want to try searching NAAIRS our national archives index for deceased Molehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761273493116575841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-30587299390321840742019-10-04T20:33:31.387+02:002019-10-04T20:33:31.387+02:00Hi there Mole. Thanks for creating this blog.
I h...Hi there Mole. Thanks for creating this blog. <br />I have been tracing my ancestry for 2 years now, as I want to live permanently in India I did trace my ancestor who arrived on the ship. But his son ( my great great great grandfather) there is no ID Although his name appears on my granfather’s Pass. Also another question- how do we locate a person’s ID number from their 800 number? <br />Nishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12830471962116884177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-5043232925950373382019-01-17T06:15:44.144+02:002019-01-17T06:15:44.144+02:00Unfortunately some villages may have disappeared f...Unfortunately some villages may have disappeared from any maps due to events such as famine or flood. The best bet is to find Ordinance Survey Maps of the period during which your ancestor came out from India on which the village may still be marked. Mr K Chetty at the Documentation Centre may be able to help with such maps. See http://scnc.ukzn.ac.za/doc/SHIP/guidelines.html<br />Molehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761273493116575841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-7021538765730054692019-01-10T13:33:40.258+02:002019-01-10T13:33:40.258+02:00Good afternoon,I have traced my great grandfathers...Good afternoon,I have traced my great grandfathers details on the Ukzn ships list.Name of ship - Sophia Joakim.Date of arrival - August 1883.Colonial no:29863.Name - Jiawon.Fathers name - Mungroo.Zillah - Pertabgurh.Thanna - Puthi.Village - Nanaipura.I have visited the Patti district in Pratapgarh(New spelling) but could not find the village of Nanaipura.Could you please advise on the way Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18438566317788803629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-72290955483118997862018-11-30T10:09:07.081+02:002018-11-30T10:09:07.081+02:00Unfortunately there is no index or list of so-call...Unfortunately there is no index or list of so-called Passenger Indians i.e. those who came out paying their own way and were not indentured migrant workers. Sorry, Danny.Molehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761273493116575841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-69595203630908819982018-11-28T08:41:58.749+02:002018-11-28T08:41:58.749+02:00Good day
I am trying to track any documentation...Good day<br /> I am trying to track any documentation on one Veerasamy Chainee /Mestry from Chingelput in India that arrived in South Africa<br /> The name does not appear in any ships list i have already researched, and the only document I have is of his son Chinsammy Chainee and a file Number (illegible character32966 saying Passenger ) last known to have lived in Bethal (old Tvl) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11120445669219349932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-25553821806215405502018-11-04T06:55:30.615+02:002018-11-04T06:55:30.615+02:00Hello - the following reference on NAAIRS may appl...Hello - the following reference on NAAIRS may apply to your grandparents - it is the 1966 deceased estate file for Kistnasamy with a spouse named Nagamah who survives him. It mentions that he is colonial born so a number shown after name in your document may be a colonial number, not the same as the Registration number which migrants were given on arrival in Natal. Seems it would have been your Molehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09761273493116575841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6378093591532627400.post-28619124101954453832018-10-21T15:56:24.846+02:002018-10-21T15:56:24.846+02:00Good day
My mum passed away in March 2017, age 65...Good day<br /><br />My mum passed away in March 2017, age 65. We were going through her personal belongings and came across this important document, " UNION OF SOUTH AFRICA. A COPY FROM REGISTER OF BIRTHS OF INDIAN IMMIGRANTS IN THE PROVINCE OF NATAL - SCHEDULE F, LAW No.25 OF 1891." It seems that this document belongs to my late mum's, mother (my grandmother).<br />I would like to Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05192542577936453969noreply@blogger.com